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Christian moralists, canonists, and theologians from the patristic period onward commonly maintained that only one posture was appropriate and natural for human sexual intercourse.
Christian moralists, canonists, and theologians from the patristic period onward commonly maintained that only one posture was appropriate and natural for human sexual intercourse.
St.
Albertus Magnus the Great, Doctor of the Church, (c.
1206-1280): “Nature teaches that the proper manner is that the
woman be on her back with the man lying on her stomach.”
(Commentarii in IV Sententiarum (Dist. XXIII-L))
Deviation from
this was sanctioned only when illness or physical obesity
necessitated or when there was danger of smothering the foetus in the
advanced stages of pregnancy.
Many readers will
undoubtedly question why the missionary position would be considered
as the only appropriate form of sexual intercourse between a husband
and wife. The simple answer to this question is because of the
natural order of the hierarchy so established by God, because
in marriage the husband is the head of the wife.
Ephesians
5:23 “Because the husband is the head of
the wife, as Christ is the head of the church. He is the savior
of his body.”
The missionary
position is simply a bodily manifestation of this. If it were
otherwise, the woman would be more like a man (more like the head and
in control) and the man more like a woman (more submissive and
receptive), which is contrary to nature.
Genesis
1:27 “And God created man to his own image: to the image of God he
created him: male and female he created them.”
St. Thomas
Aquinas teaches the same concept in his “Summa Theologica”:
“These
species are differentiated on the part of the woman rather than of
the man, because
in the venereal act the woman is passive
and is by way of matter, whereas the man
is by way of agent
[in way of acting]...”
(St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa
Theologica,
Second Part of the Second Part, Q. 154, Art. 1)
Thus, the
Catholic Church teaches that any sexual position performed by the
spouses where the woman is by way of agent, (that is, when she is
more in control of the sexual act with her movements) is contrary to
nature and tradition, in addition to the natural hierarchy so
established by God.
But
there are also other reasons why the Church commonly have recommended
only the missionary position. The most obvious reason, of course, is
because these other positions or
“experimentations”
are usually more “exciting” to people who practice them, since it
enhances their lust and gives them greater levels of pleasure or
enjoyment than they otherwise would have, in addition to making the
act more bestial. So that’s why Church tradition holds as contrary
to nature those other positions. The Church has as it’s main goal
the preservation of morality and the salvation of souls, and not that
of appeasing stiff-necked, lust-seeking couples who are searching for
new ways to damn themselves. The Angelic Doctor, St. Thomas Aquinas,
who was well aware of the sexual depravity of humankind, refers to
these most obvious reasons in his writings as well:
St.
Thomas Aquinas, In
Libros Sententiarum,
Chapter IV, Section 31, 2, 3: “Marital relations are contrary to
nature when either the right receptacle or the proper
position
required by nature is avoided.
In the first case it is always a mortal sin because no offspring can
result, so that the purpose of nature is completely frustrated. But
in the second case [of inappropriate sexual positions] it is not
always a mortal sin, as some say, though
it can be the sign
of a passion which is mortal;
at times the latter can occur without sin, as when one’s bodily
condition does not permit any other method. In
general, this practice is more serious the more it departs from the
natural way.”
St. Thomas
Aquinas’ mentor, St. Albertus Magnus the Great, also a Doctor of
the Church, taught that to depart from the “natural position”
for human intercourse, the husband on top of his wife, was to become
like the “brute animals.” (Albert the Great, On the Sentences,
4.31.24) St. Thomas Aquinas elaborated on that concept, teaching
that: “by not observing the natural manner of copulation [that is,
by not performing only the normal procreative marital act], either as
to undue means, or as to other monstrous and bestial manners of
copulation,” the married couple commits sin by going “contrary to
the natural order of the venereal act as becoming to the human race.”
(St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, I:II, q. 154, art. 11)
Since St. Thomas even condemns a procreative sexual act other than
the normal marital act, even though it is totally procreative
in itself, who but a madman or liar would refuse to admit
that the Saint also condemns sensual kisses and touches in marriage,
because such acts are not even procreative, and must
therefore be infinitely more sinful.
Thomas Sánches,
S.J. in De sancto matrimonio sacramento, condemned the
reversal of the normal sexual position as against nature:
“This
way of going about things is absolutely contrary to the laws of
nature… it is not only the position of the person that is being
reversed but also their condition: and it is in the nature of things
that the male should perform and the female submit. The very fact
that the male places himself underneath makes him passive while the
woman by putting herself on top becomes active. Who could deny seeing
that nature is filled with horror at such a turning upside down?”
(De sancto matrimonio sacramento, IX, XIV, I)
“In 1215, the cleric Johannes Teutonicus ...[announced] that there was only one “natural” coital position — what we today call “the missionary position,” a term that was coined in the 1960s — which was also optimal for conception. Attempting any other position was a mortal sin, Johannes opined, involving exotic and unnecessary forms of stimulation. ... Alexander of Hales railed against coitus retro, the rear-entry position, as a mortal sin, for it was coupling “in the manner of brutes.” St. Albert the Great discussed in detail four other forbidden positions: lateral (side by side), seated, standing, and anal sex.
...The handbooks listed recommended penance of bread, water, and abstinence for exotic congress. A consensus on the punishments included the following:Dorsal sex (woman on top): three years
Lateral, seated, standing: 40 days
Coitus retro — rear entry: 40 days
Mutual masturbation: 30 days
Inter-femural sex — ejaculation between the legs: 40 days
Coitus in terga — anal sex: three years (with an adult); two years (with a boy); seven years (habitual); 10 years (with a cleric)Theologians were divided on the punishment for coitus interruptus, the withdrawal method that frustrated procreation, arguing for a penance of between two and 10 years, while semenem in ore (semen in the mouth) could attract anywhere from three to 15 years. Pierre de La Padule added that sex during menstruation, sex in churches and sex preceded by kissing and fondling were almost as bad as the previously mentioned positions. Masturbation was so common that it only incurred a 10-day penalty for men and 30 days for monks, but women who used “erotic devices” did penance for one year.”
[Sources/Further Reading: Brundage, James A., “Let Me Count the Ways: Canonists and Theologians Contemplate Coital Positions,” Journal of Medieval History, vol. 10, 1984, 81-94; Richards, Jeffrey, Sex , Dissidence and Damnation: Minority Groups in the Middle Ages, New York, 1993] (Tony Perrottet, The Holy Guide To Coital Positions, 2008)
In truth, “Some,
then, as we have shown, have tried to go beyond what is right and the
concord that marks salvation which is holy and established. … They
have abandoned themselves to lust without restraint and persuade
their neighbors to live licentiously; as wretches they follow the
Scripture: "Cast your lot in with us; let us all have a common
purse and let our moneybag be one." [Prov. 1:14] On account of
them the same prophet gives us advice saying: "Go not in the way
with them, withdraw thy foot from their steps. For not unjustly are
nets spread out to catch birds; for they are guilty of bloodshed and
treasure up evil for themselves" [Prov. 1:15-18] that is, they
seek for immorality and teach their neighbors to do the same.
According to the prophet they are "fighters struck with their
own tails" (ourai), to which the Greeks give the name kerkoi.
Those to whom the prophecy refers might well be lustful, incontinent,
men who fight with their tails, children of darkness and wrath… And
again in anger at such people he directs that we should "have no
fellowship with any one called a brother if he is a fornicator or
covetous man or idolater or reviler or drunkard or robber; with such
a man one ought not even to eat." [1 Cor. 5:11] "For I
through the law am dead to the law," he says, "that I may
live unto God. I am crucified with Christ; it is no longer I that
live," meaning that I used to live according to my lusts, "but
Christ lives in me," and I am pure and blessed by obeying the
commandments; so that whereas at one time I lived in the flesh
carnally, "the life which I now live in the flesh I live by
faith in the Son of God" [Gal. 2:19-20].” (St. Clement of
Alexandria, The Stromata or Miscellanies, Book III,
Chapter XVIII, Section 105-106)
For those who want to read and learn a lot more on sexual ethics, I can recommend the following interesting and informative article that is absolutely packed with quotes from the popes, saints and fathers of the Church:
Sexual Pleasure, the Various Sexual Acts, and Procreation
Thank you. We have been looking for true answers from Church Father's concerning this issue. These are things all married need to know on the path to sainthood that is not talked about.
ReplyDeletePharisee much?
ReplyDeleteHebrews 13:4 KJV — Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.
1)The marriage bed is undefiled.A husband and wife kissing and fondling is not a sin because:
1)a.Sin is transgression of the law.
1 John 3:4 KJV — Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
There is now law against kissing.
2) Sex with a menstruous woman is listed here as "almost as bad" as sex in a church or in those"sinful" positions", yet the bible only condemns sex with A MENSTRUOUS WOMAN in an outright manner.
4Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
5But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right,
6And hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, neither hath defiled his neighbour's wife, neither hath come near to A MENSTRUOUS WOMAN,
7And hath not oppressed any, but hath restored to the debtor his pledge, hath spoiled none by violence, hath given his bread to the hungry, and hath covered the naked with a garment;
8He that hath not given forth upon usury, neither hath taken any increase, that hath withdrawn his hand from iniquity, hath executed true judgment between man and man,
9Hath walked in my statutes, and hath kept my judgments, to deal truly; he is just, he shall surely live, saith the Lord GOD.
3) WHY DO CATHOLIC "FATHERS" LIST SPECIFIC PENALTIES AGAINST ANAL SEX WITH CHILDREN? And wow, a special one for clerics too. Like doesn't "nature" teach a man not to have sex with anyone save for a woman who is come into the flower of her age? It must've been a frequent occurrence among the crowd of early Catholics, just like today. "Three years of bread and water if you have anal sex with an adult but only two years if you rape a child" Really? And none of you see a problem with the catholic church and all of these made up laws while they ignore the REAL laws that are listed for anyone to see in scripture? You're all going straight to the lake of fire if you dont separate from this bovine excrement.
“Pharisee much?”
DeleteYes, my old beliefs where much Pharisaical in nature. But I have changed.
“The marriage bed is undefiled. A husband and wife kissing and fondling is not a sin... There is no law against kissing.”
Correct. Kissing and fondling in marriage is not a sin, and I now accept the teaching of the Church on the matter, which is the teaching of Vatican II and St. Alphonsus who writes on the subject approvingly.
“Sex with a menstruous woman is listed here as "almost as bad" as sex in a church or in those"sinful" positions", yet the bible only condemns sex with A MENSTRUOUS WOMAN in an outright manner.”
A person must not fear to approach a menstrous wife as if there is a sin in it, because it is not, and the Church does not condemn this practice, but only discourages it provided the spouses can refrain instead and live chaste.
“WHY DO CATHOLIC "FATHERS" LIST SPECIFIC PENALTIES AGAINST ANAL SEX WITH CHILDREN?”
Because some abused children and took advantage of them. That is why.
“It must've been a frequent occurrence among the crowd of early Catholics, just like today.”
I don't think it was, in fact, most priests have been virtuous, some more, some less. But the fact that something is mentioned does not mean it happens a lot. And besides, just because some are bad and do wrong, does not mean everyone should be lumped in with them.
“Three years of bread and water if you have anal sex with an adult but only two years if you rape a child”
If it was rape the crime would have been more severe. Children have a free will of themselves also, but children must not be taken advantage of, since this is wrong.
“Really? And none of you see a problem with the catholic church and all of these made up laws while they ignore the REAL laws that are listed for anyone to see in scripture?”
They are not made up laws, but real laws, such as you shall not murder, not rape, not steal etc. They are laws the Church follows and believes in, such as the necessity to confess one's sin.
“You're all going straight to the lake of fire if you dont separate from this bovine excrement.”
No, we are not, and neither are you. Let us all be friends, and love each other, and then in the next life, we will see each other again and be friends and lovers, as we are all meant to be with each other.
Hello, I enjoy reading all of your article. I wanted to write a little
ReplyDeletecomment to support you.
So basically "missionary is the only acceptable position because the woman is unable to do anything, and men are greater than woman so it should be so."
ReplyDeleteStupid.
According to these theologians, the missionary position was the only acceptable position due to various reasons mentioned in the article, but today, theologians think differently. If people have sex in different positions with a good conscience, they commit no sin. However, the marriage act will become more holy and noble if it is made wholly and completely out of love for the other spouse and God. And I can see why the missionary position will help towards this goal, since it makes husband and wife more close to each other in the most intimate position possible, with the ability to kiss, hug and look each other in the eyes. Expressions of love should also be expressed during this time. If one really loves someone, one will show this from the heart, not only during sex, but also during daily life. So if you don't act towards your spouse as you did in the beginning of your relationship, or at least, in some similar way in the sense that you really try to show your wife or husband that you love him or her, it would be a good time to reconsider how to make a change of your life in order to make your beloved spouse feel more loved and appreciated again.
DeleteIn other sexual positions, more lust will probably be involved (as seems obvious), and hence, they will be more governed by lust then love, or by both lust and love. And also, I suppose there is a reason for why most people like the missionary position best of all. That is, again, because it gives couples most love, and least lust.
Also, never did the theologians cited say a woman is unable to do anything. She can do a lot in life (and many things much better than men), but in the sense of giving the seed and governing the marriage act, she does not have to do anything, that was their point, and the reason for the missionary position being the natural and only position in their view. I also think this position is the natural and normal one, as I think most people would think, but there is no actual mortal sin by having sex in other ways.
"sex preceded by kissing and fondling were almost as bad as the previously mentioned positions."
ReplyDeleteWow, they must have been having some Really unpleasant sex.
I don't think that is true at all, because since they desired to be holy and natural (i.e., desired to obey laws so that they would follow love more than lust and be a good person towards others) they might in fact have had better sex than even most people today have.
DeleteThe less you know about sex and the more shameful you are, the better it becomes. And the more holy you feel and pure and if you only follow love and even despise lust somehow (even if lust combined with love is good), then I believe the act will become stronger, because feelings are coverned by thought processes, and not by the will of actually wanting sex to be great or good.
Hence, if you desire to be modes and natural and even "resist" lust somewhat during the marriage act, you will be rewarded in return with perhaps greater love (since you follow love for the other and not a lust) and pleasure feelings than normal.
Also, true love is not found in kissing, but true love is found in actually always caring about the other. But I agree, their thoughts on intimacy was not right in the sense of being sinful, but the times was different back then, because cleanliness and a healthy mouth was not the same back then as now, and it may even have been unpleasant to do simple things like kissing, since the mouth may have been ill smelling or dirty (i.e., brown teeth, smelly mouth etc.).
So I can understand why their view on sexual maters was different back then and why they lived a more natural life according to the times, but this their life also led I believe to more feelings of love for those who truly loved each other, since their thoughts was not centered on sex or pleasure, but on love and loving the other spouse.
Why not try to live like people lived before in time as a test for a time and see what it leads to? Would it hurt to avoid kissing or fondling with lust and only do these things with chastity and love for the other spouse (which means you think of her and not your own lust) or only having sex "naturally" and hence always being close to her face and trying to please her and not your own lust and see if there is something behind this doctrine that almost everyone before in time believed in and followed? I do think you might be in for a surprise if you only tried this way of life, and you might perhaps even want to embrace this life even if perhaps you do not do this always.