Thursday, July 18, 2019

Response to Introibo Ad Altare Dei as to why the doctrine of Hell do not follow true justice or logic

This is my response to a person by the name of Introibo Ad Altare Dei who made a reply to my previous post on this topic (, and this person wrote in arrogantly and heretically that the damned are not worthy of forgiveness and that God would be unjust if he forgave them or let them live in happiness! just as if an un-confessed nun that only was damned for being ashamed to confess her sins (I have read about one such example) deserves eternal torments in insufferable torments without the hope of ever feeling love, happiness, hope or forgiveness again! This position of not forgiving or of not letting others live in happiness is pure evil and satanic, and it is not surprising that people fall into this apostasy and heresy against the Natural Law, the Law of Conscience, and the Law of Love and Charity, and even against all secular laws that abhors such unmerciful and uncharitable torments of our fellow human beings as the case of Hitler, World War 2 and the evil Concentration camps proves – when one defends this evil doctrine of God's Hell. And remember this well and understand, this hypocritical person who judges biasedly against all justice when it comes to God and his evil Hell and who wrote this evil comment IS A REAL LAWYER BY DEGREE AND WORK! Introibo, you should be ashamed of yourself! Had such an evil person as God is been a man and been brought to court of law in your presence, you would have condemned him as the most evil person that has ever existed for what he did to his fellow human beings (i.e, for his crimes of allowing them to be tormented in the worst torments possible for all eternity without hindering it, and by his evil deed and thought of even agreeing with it and approving of it and for allowing it to continue to happen for all eternity. I am sure you can think of numberless crimes such a human being (like Hitler) would have committed against humanity just from memory if a human being did this to someone else, but when it comes to God, he is completely innocent according to you, and even excused!

Since there are better solutions then eternal damnation, God is inexcusable for not thinking of something better. Even living always on Earth with human love would be way better, obviously, then die and be damned to Hell and then being forced to stay in that state, only because said so! This is evil dictatorialship to the max, and since God claims to be just, he must fall or allow himself to be deprived of his rulership if he do not change his evil position on damnation. (And even if he changed position, he must be deprived of his rulership, since he has been unworthy to rule because of his evil position just like Hitler would be unworthy, without first doing severe penance and repartition for a long time in order to gain back everyone's respect and trust.) Trust me, God will fall from Heaven if he will not change position, since his position on Hell is evil and unjust, and since God claims to be just, he must be just truly, or fall into his own Hell.

You can read numerous horrifying examples of good girls and boys being damned in this book below by St. Alphonsus. And remember, their only crime seems to have been to have offended against God. They where not murderers, or evil people, but simply did not confess their sins or did some other internal sin against God's will. (I don't remember the exact book, but it was a book about Hell and lost souls primarily.)

I have put his comment in complete bold-red.

Introibo Ad Altare Dei asks: “Jerome, I hope you realize how illogical your position is and how misguided.”

Jerome answers: I will try to be as logical once again in my response to you (just as I was in the post you read fully?) and in so doing we shall see who's position is more logical – not only by the laws of charity and kindness, but also by the law of justice and love, and also by the standards of the secular laws.

Introibo Ad Altare Dei: “1. If Hell does not exist and everyone is saved, why keep the Ten Commandments? They become Ten Suggestions.”

Jerome answers: I answer that the commandments should be kept because they lead people to live a more moral life, and because people need laws and justice to follow in order not to offend their neighbour and God. But these laws does not mean in anyway (or give any excuse in any way or by any law) that lawbreakers should be ETERNALLY TORMENTED IN UNMERCIFUL TORMENTS just because the lawbreakers (men and angels) enraged the lawgiver (God).

If you tormented your own children FOR ALL ETERNITY just because they blasphemed you and died suddenly in this state, you would be evil! and you would even judge yourself as evil and as unmerciful and undeserving (and the secular laws would too), but if this person is God who torments his own children, then all is fine! This kind of false judgment (of judging yourself and others different and with different standards and laws then with what you judge God himself with) is called hypocrisy, being unjust, and taking persons into consideration.

As a lawyer, you should already be aware of that the Dictator God breaks all laws against humanity by allowing people to be damned in eternal torments just as the Dictator Hitler did break those laws by allowing people to die and be tormented in concentration camps. If Hitler was condemned and hated because he allowed people to be murdered in concentration camps, then what should God be who allows even WORSE TORMENTS AND ETERNAL ONES TOO? But I already did give similar arguments in my post, but simple arguments like this simply won't reach people like yourself if you are not ready to judge even God himself, and stand up against a justice above God's injustice (which people falsely call justice).

If you truly loved justice even above God, you would condemn him, for you do not truly wish that your own children be damned or tormented for all eternity, but yet you do nothing to hinder the person who would allow and even force this upon your own children if they happened to die in his displeasure (which could happen because of only even one single blasphemy and then dying afterwards without repentance). So your arguments that people in Hell “deserve” such SEVERE, ETERNAL, UNJUST PUNISHMENT is proven false by this argument alone.

Introibo Ad Altare Dei asks: “You used to think marital sex was sinful except under the most regulated conditions. Now, if what you say is true, who cares? Rape, murder, “do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.” There’s no punishment for the wicked.”

Jerome answers: Marital sex is only sinful if you believe it is sinful. That is just how the law of conscience works (for this reason, non-Christians do not commit sin in this way). Otherwise, there is no sin with giving love and sharing love with others. But even if people did sin in this way, why should they be murdered with eternal torments if they died suddenly afterwards unrepented? That is clearly unjust, and you as a lawyer know this. You know the punishment is unjust and too severe (and that is not only because secular laws would condemn such severe punishments, but also because you know in your heart it is true and that it is unjust) and that it is dictatorial. Just admit it already.

No, we should not rape or murder. Most people do not, and it is illogical to argue that wanting all people to be saved and teaching that God is evil on the doctrine of Hell is somewhat related to allowing or encouraging murder, rape or pedophilia. It is not. Yet you made the argument either way. My argument was, rather, that my desire is that even those people shall be saved, and not eternally lost, since they are human beings and souls with feelings too, that needs to be loved.

Yes, there is punishment for the wicked. You know this, I know this, everyone know this. The world herself even punishes the wicked, and so does God too. But should the punishment be eternal? That is the question. The only true and charitable answer is NO! Eternal punishments in eternal, unmerciful and INSUFFERABLE TORMENTS is evil, and God is evil for allowing this, just as Hitler was evil for allowing people to be raped, murdered and being unjustly tortured in concentration camps. As a lawyer, you would have to admit this in a court of law, or simply by being honest, that Hitler was evil. Yet you excuse a worse crime and criminal when it comes to God that pales in comparison with even Hitler – i.e., ETERNAL DAMNATION IN INSUFFERABLE TORMENTS!

Introibo Ad Altare Dei asks: “Even if punishment were TEMPORARY it still would be unjust because they get eternal happiness thereafter.”

Jerome answers: This answer makes me both angry and sad at the same time. What you wrote is pure heresy – a heresy against the law of love and forgiveness – i.e., to deny someone the possibility of repentance and forgiveness in the next life. It is the worst kind of heresy, and people only fall into it by excusing an evil doctrine and an evil God.

So back to the example of children being damned already mentioned before: Did you know that Saint Alphonsus gave an example of a 5 year old being damned after contracting a habit of blaspheming, and that he died in blasphemy and was seen in Hell? According to your evil heresy, THIS CHILD DOES NOT DESERVE FORGIVENESS, AND MUST BE ETERNALLY TORMENTED IN A SEA OF FIRE FOR ALL ETERNITY. Are you not ashamed of yourself? Perhaps you should look your own small child in the eyes that you love and feel ashamed that your arguments have led to this conclusion of unforgivness – only because you want to defend an evil doctrine and an evil God. (That is why you only try to mention the worst cases of people being evil or damned such as Hitler and murderers, and not also the most damaging for the opposite side, such as children being damned for things that only offended a God.)

You would not want your own children to be tormented and damned forever, and if you had the say or power to do so in Heaven, I am sure you would have forgiven them even if they had died in God's displeasure. So in short: If you were God instead of God, I am sure you would do all in your power to excuse and forgive and save your own children, family and spouse if they had been damned. I guess you would have done the same with everyone else too, and not only your own family because if you could do so and had the power, why would you not? Do you not see then that you only hold your evil belief of the damned being denied love, happiness and forgiveness is because you are slaving after an evil dictator God who wishes to damn souls? and that you are afraid to condemn him and stand your ground on a truer justice above God's injustice?

A murderer can be converted and become good and loving. It happens all the time in this life. Therefore, to deny him the chance of repentance in the next life in order to always torment him instead in insufferable torments just because God said so (and that was the only reason really, because God wants this even if you or I don't), is pure evil to the max and against all justice and love and charity and kindness. Therefore, God is the worst of dictator that needs to be removed from his power and rulership. But I already explained all of this, but it seems nothing really stuck on you.

If your argument is that people in Hell always are evil and never want to convert or become good and are therefore undeserving, I will explain myself again and give an explanation (and I already did in the post, but it is worth repeating): If souls condemned by God are evil, this is because God made them evil since he rejected them and removed all grace from them before damning them.

Also, how could one love if one lives in a sea of fire and all kinds of possible torments? Would you be able to love your neighbour if you suffered insufferable torments at the same time, without hope and without love, or would you start to hate also even if you did not want too? Yes, you would hate, and so would I. Therefore, God is evil that forces men, angels and souls to hate by depriving them of happiness, love, hope and forgiveness, and of living a life without being always tormented.

Also, to the argument that they are always evil and do not want to convert, I answer: That is plainly false. They might hate God with an unforgiving love. I admit that. But that is only because God deserves it (until the time they can actually and truly forgive him) since he was the cause for their eternal damnation and insufferable torments. The damned are my friends, since I desire their good. They do not hate me, and they actually love me and I them, and we will be a family in the next life. You can believe this if you want, or you can deny it, but it is true nonetheless that I do not hate them and that I believe they are good, since I desire them good. If people do good, they receive love. Hence, if we do them good, we will receive good. If we do them evil or desire them evil (like God does) is it any strange that we receive hatred? Of course not. Therefore, do good to everyone, even evil people, and they will quickly be converted and start to love. Without love, evil people won't be converted.

Another argument I did post on this subject, if not in this post, in some of the earlier one's, was this: If humans on earth do not want to live in even temporary torments or hate, why would they want to do this in the next life – unless their hatred for this God who condemned them was so great? But in that case, a simple solution: let someone else be their God who desires their good and who is more deserving to be God then even God himself since this person desires more good  and all would be good! Anyway, back to the point: If humans don't want to live in torments, why would a soul and body want this in the next life?

Answer: They won't, unless for the only reason that they had no hope or love for this God that damned them. Yes, according to Revelation, their hatred for God and everything God is so great that they actually want to be damned. But this by itself shows that they are sick, since it is not a good thing to live in hate and torments just because they can't stand the God who rejected them. That is why my solution of letting someone else be their God, who is also more deserving, solves this problem. Him they would not hate, since this person is not the same God or the one who damned and rejected them.

Also, let the damned be sent back to earth one more time in body and soul and live in human understanding and happiness, and ask this soul that previously was damned and hated God, if he would want to hate or live in eternal torments if there was forgiveness and acceptance from God (or another God). What do you think this person would answer? I think he would answer that he do not wish to live in eternal torments and hate (but if he did, he would be sick and would be denied this request by me and would simply just get a new life (be born anew like a child) in order to be healed and start to love again). If that is the case – that there are real solutions that are better than damning our children, brothers and sisters, fathers and mothers, friends and neighbours – why then deny fallen angels, humans and souls this chance of a new life, or to live in at least worldly happiness even if they wanted to hate God? Is God so evil that he does not even allow any of the damned to live in human happiness and he must torment them instead always in a Hell with fire and insufferable, indescribable torments?

Since humans on earth (before being rejected by God and before being damned by God or by their own conscience, which is also a kind of force by the way since this conscience follows God's own forced rules) if they do not want to be damned or hate but love and feel love – if they on earth desires love – this proves that it is God's judgment that destroys something in humans and souls at the judgment. As I understand it, it is God's rejection of a soul that creates this eternal hate and strife between them. Therefore, it was God's fault that this happened since he could have accepted them and forgiven them and worked for their eternal salvation and happiness (worked for all eternity too for some kind of solution that they might be saved, forgiven etc. but he did not and just rejected them and allowed them to be damned) even if they were sinful and died sinful.

If God does not want the damned as his own, I will gladly take them as my own children, and I will forgive them and let them live in happiness, and I can promise you, I would spend all eternity trying to make them become good if it really turns out they (the damned) are evil. But with all eternity on my back and with faith too in goodness, love and forgiveness, who says that a miracle could not happen eventually and they became converted, good, kind and lovable, even if God did not believe this would happen? hence that he damned them? That is the power of goodness and faith, that something unexpected could happen if we only dare to believe in this! So why believe in hate and eternal unforgiveness, rather then love and forgiveness? That is beyond my understanding. It is this poor choice of God that made him loose the respect of the damned and of me and of everyone else in the world that hates his unjust Hell.

Introibo Ad Altare Dei asks: “So why be like St Francis of Assisi when you can be like Hitler and end up in the same place? Your position makes God unjust.”

Jerome answers: The fact that you even asks me this question and then ends if with “would make God be unjust” makes me angry and sad. Why be good when you can be evil, you ask? We desire to be good and love because goodness and love is truth. When we are evil and do evil, we reject our nature and become lost from our true self. That is why all people desire goodness and to be good, even if not all people are good or do as much good as others.

When we do evil and do wrong, we feel bad and feel ashamed, but never can we say the same about being good and doing good. No, we only feel good in our innermost being when doing and thinking good about others and about doing good, and we also gain the kindness and thanks of our fellow brothers and sisters, since they also desire and love goodness, happiness and love. But to the contrary, if we do evil, we feel their wrath and displeasure.

So we should be good because being good is to be who we were created to be, but when we are evil and do evil, we become what we were not supposed to be.

BUT THE FACT THAT SOME PEOPLE CHOOSE THE WRONG PATH IN LIFE DOES NOT MEAN, ONCE AGAIN, THAT THEY MUST BE UNFORGIVEN AND HATED AND TORMENTED FOR ALL ETERNITY AS GOD DESIRES IT IN HIS EVIL HELL. That position, action and thought is unjust and evil. Will bad people be healed by being treated like they are worthless? Of course not. How then will the damned be healed if they are simply rejected and thrown away like worthless trash in a fire to live without hope, without love, and without forgiveness, for all eternity too? Answer: They won't be healed, which is why Hell is an evil doctrine, since it does not heal the wounds, but makes them worse. Only love, hope and forgiveness will heal, which is why I believe in love and not hatred.

So your argument that God would be unjust if he allowed someone like Hitler happiness and forgiveness as opposed to eternal, unmerciful torments is evil and false, and in fact heretical.

Could not Hitler be good or become converted? Why then deny him this conversion? If everyone can be converted whilst living on Earth (as even you admit) why deny them this possibility in the next life? HENCE, THEY CAN BE CONVERTED, BUT ARE DENIED THIS POSSIBILITY, even if they died unconverted. But the choice to deny conversion and forgiveness to angels, humans and souls and spirits in the next life was God's idea, not mine, not yours, and not your neighbours, not even the Virgin Mary thought of this, but God alone did. It was God's evil idea that people only have one chance for forgiveness and salvation – and that was this one and only life – but not in the next.

Since they can be converted or are denied this possibility, God is evil and evil beyond measure for denying people the chance of converting and instead tormenting them in insufferable, indescribable torments that even God himself in several revelations have admitted are intolerable, unendurable torments – and this, according to this evil God dictator, shall go on forever only because HE DESIRES SO!

You mentioned St. Francis and Hitler in your comment and spoke of eternal unforgivness for Hitler, whereas I mentioned Devils and Demons in my post (that you did read fully?) and spoke of salvation and forgiveness, and of conversion as that of little children. Please read it again:

“I did not mention devils or demons because it does not matter. They exist, but they have become, or will be good in my belief, since I have given them hope and forgiveness, so they are my friends. Do you think I want even the devil (or Hitler) to be damned? No, I wish his salvation and happiness, and I will fight for that all the damned will be saved. And in my belief and in that of Origen, everyone will be saved in the end. Yes everyone, and that includes the devil (and Hitler). What is hard to believe with that the devil himself (or Hitler) could make himself become like a little child and start to love if he was only forgiven and was granted happiness and love? How can demons love or have hope if they are only tormented and live without hope? Can't you see that they are forced to hate? If you don't believe me, try to torment yourself or be tormented by someone in insufferable torments, and then tell me what you think and if you are happy with this life or if you start to fell an urge to hate! If someone tormented you and you had no hope and you could not bear it, and you thought this would endure forever and there was no hope and you received no consolation from anyone, you will start to hate. Can one live in insufferable torments and not start to hate when one cannot bear it? Even I would have started to hate God and even Mary if I was always tormented in insufferable torments and I had no hope of being released. Not that I want to hate, but if one is not forgiven or granted love or happiness, it only seems natural to start to hate those who deny you this happiness. Hence Hell is evil, since it forces us to hate. Without love and hope, there is only darkness and hate.”
“If there was a movie were an evil dictator like God was deprived of his power and those damned children saved from a Hell (like with Hitler and the concentration camps) then you would cry and be happy that this evil man was hindered and prevented from doing evil, and you would be happy over the tormented people's release and salvation and forgiveness. But when it comes to God and his heaven or hell, then you do not dare to think like this, and you will only let God have his will, even damning billions and billions of children, elderly, men and women, brothers and sisters etc. and you do not even think a person who fights against God like against Hitler is doing a good and noble deed, BUT RATHER, THAT HE IS EVIL, A HERETIC, AND DECEIVED, as if it is to be "deceived" to desire the eternal happiness and salvation and love for our brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers and children.” (Extracts taken from:

Introibo Ad Altare Dei asks: “2. In the strict sense, God does not condemn anyone to Hell. The person chooses it.”

Jerome answers: I know this argument. I also held this before I got courage to actually blame God instead. I answer: If people truly choose damnation in front of God because their conscience forces it, this is a kind of force, since the conscience follows God's own laws, and not our own well being. I can assure you that I do not want to be damned. If you say I do desire to be damned you would be lying. Therefore, if I desire to be damned in the next life, that only happened because I would be overwhelmed by feelings alien and foreign to me that makes it unjust and impossible to resist. If I do not want to be damned as a human with a human reasoning, I certainly do not want to be damned in the next judgment when I look at everything differently. Since feelings can be deceptive and even can be abused (such as by God), I would guess the feelings in that case must be severe and excessive, and almost impossible to reject. Is that just? Of course not. But then again, nothing is just with a Hell and eternal torments, so the fact that people choose a Hell in God's judgment does not surprise me, since I can see already that there is foul play at hand – because humans with a human reasoning will not and will never want to be eternally tormented or live in a sea of fire for all eternity. That is just common sense and reason. Hence, the argument that people choose Hell by themselves fails and is unjust, since this own condemnation of conscience to an eternal Hell is forced upon the soul with feelings foreign to our current understanding. It is unjust to judge the soul or body separate from each other, or from an understanding different from common human reasoning that looks to its own well being.

But aside from the argument that people choose damnation for themselves, this argument fails for many other reasons also and does not excuse God, because it was God that created Hell in the first place and he also allows souls and bodies and spirits (angels) to be sent there. For example, is Hitler excused for his crime of allowing people to be murdered in concentration camps even if he did not will or allow this in his own person? Of course not! He knew it occurred and that it happened, and yet allowed it. God is guilty for the same reasons: that he allows souls and bodies and spirits (that does not know their own good or best) to damn themselves in insufferable torments. On earth human laws and justice demands that you help sick people and people that cannot help themselves or that hurts themselves. Yet God allows a soul to damn itself and judge itself worthy of eternal, insufferable torments in a sea of fire, without love and hope, and does not hinder it? That is evil. If you allowed your child to torment itself and you did not hinder it, you would be evil and be judged undeserving by the world. And what would you judge yourself? Yet God allows those who he hate to judge themselves and torment themselves for all eternity without helping them? That is because he is evil, that he does this. Otherwise, he would show compassion and mercy towards those sick souls, even if they died in his displeasure, and he would do them good, and not evil.

So even if souls judge themselves and send themselves to Hell (as the argument goes), God ultimately allows it and permits it and, most importantly, HE DO NOT STOP IT OR HINDER IT FROM OCCURRING! That makes him guilty, of course, which is why the secular laws condemns such evil negligence and uncharitable behavior severely.

Introibo Ad Altare Dei asks: “God gives everyone the grace necessary to be good and be saved. Think of it this way: If I choose to smoke, I choose to forsake my health. If I choose sin, I choose that creature or action over God.”

Jerome answers: God does give grace, true, but he also removes grace and allows souls to be damned by their own choice (if they choose an evil path). So what is your point? That one must follow God's laws absolutely or risk his wrath and displeasure for all eternity without the possibility of ever being forgiven, and that if one becomes unworthy in his eyes, one has become worthy to be damned (for God views those worthy of damnation as worthy of this, sadly) by not being forgiven in the next life if one died in his displeasure? Granted, God claims he gives everyone the graces necessary to be forgiven and saved in this life, even to the most unworthy, but this once again is only after his own pleasure and liking, and that is also why most are not saved, since most are unworthy of these graces according to the life they live. Had I been God, had my own rules been different and more humans received those most important graces so they could be saved? I sure hope so, but who knows, perhaps I would have been a worse God!

This one example alone shows us that God has only decided for himself (or if there are some rules that just is that can't be changed or all Heaven and Earth would be destroyed?) of who will and who will not be forgiven according to the standards he has set, and that it could be different, if he had chosen to. So more could receive those graces (even those not deserving of them according to his own standards even if they were evil) so that more souls could be saved, but sadly, this is not the case. We know this, because God himself admits that the road to Heaven is small and that most are damned.

Only in Heaven will we know this truth: if God by himself made the way small by being over-severely harsh and unforgiving, or if there are more truths not known to us that must be overcome first, before forgiving and moving on (for I do believe even the damned will be saved in the end when true justice rules also in Heaven).

Good or bad, it does not really matter. There is no excuse with damning bad people for all eternity in insufferable torments when they can become good and converted (if we have faith and hope in this, i.e., in goodness, love, hope and forgiveness), if they only had the chance, or were given the opportunity – which they are not given or granted in the current Hell we know about. That is why Hell and unforgiveness and unlove and unhope is so evil.

Introibo Ad Altare Dei asks: “3. There are fallacious appeals to pity. “Would you want someone you love to go to Hell” etc. would you want someone you love to go to jail? No! But what if they killed people and were not fit to be in society? We should let them roam free because you don’t want them to be where they belong?””

Jerome answers: What a bad and stupid argument. Because someone received God's displeasure, such as an un-confessed nun I have read about that lived a good life but yet was damned only because she was ashamed to confess her sins, she deserves to be damned for all eternity? No, she does not deserve to be damned, as she has committed no crime as even you understand. Her only “crime” was against God's will that she must confess, and that was all. Otherwise she did perhaps nothing wrong, no sins, and no offences towards anyone. Perhaps you should read more stories about tragic cases of souls being damned, and then you would see that most of them where not evil in the sense of being murderers. They did not do evil, except perhaps against God's will. In other words, they do good to others, but failed to live up to God's standard. However, even if they where evil and murderers, they do not deserve eternal, insufferable torments. A prison without torments would have been more just, with the possibility to be forgiven (released) whenever they have a change of heart. That is how it works in the world, and had it occurred in any other way in the secular world today – such as they live in insufferable torments in the prison and are treated unjustly and inhumanly – not only had the secular laws condemned this, but also you would have condemned those severely who acted unjustly against those prisoners (even if they were guilty or criminals) because of their cruelty and injustice. So you would have defended criminals in the world against such injustices, but do not defend criminals in the next life against the same injustices! That is called hypocritical judgment and considering persons and things not in the light of justice... So this truth, justice and love is denied the damned (such as by yourself). And you also heretically said it was unjust to forgive them (the damned). Your position is a heresy and is evil. Perhaps you did not understand the implication of your position, but you did say forgiving the damned (such as an unconfessed nun or a murderer) would be unjust and make God unjust, since it would be “wrong” to let such a soul live in happiness in Heaven! What an evil position! So the soul must live in eternal damnation and insufferable torments that would have murdered you immediately had you even felt a fraction of it, and they can't be forgiven and must remain damned for all eternity, even if they want to be forgiven and love? Is that really your position? That is pure evil and satanic if it is.

I am sure you would not consider an unconfessed nun a danger to society, yet God judged her worthy of eternal Hellfire in insufferable torments in the example I read. Of course, you only mention the more fitting examples for your position, such as murderers and dangerous criminals that must be jailed, but failed to notice or think about all others that similarly are damned that were not murderers or evil in the same way. But does it really matter if they were more evil or less evil? No, since all eternal damnation is evil. Those whom God deems worthy of damnation will be damned even if they were good to others and good people in general. That is because it is enough to be damned, according to God's evil judgment, if one only died in his displeasure even if you did good to everyone else.

Introibo Ad Altare Dei asks: “Praying for your conversion.”

Jerome answers: Thanks. But it is you who need to be converted after this shameful post you made about damned souls not being worthy of forgiveness and happiness.

You evil person. Why don't you throw yourself in a live volcano (praying for a grace not to die but feeling all the pain), or cut yourself unmercifully with a knife in insufferable torments, and then tell me if you think you would want to live such an eternity, or if you desire such a fate for others, i.e., FOR YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS, MOTHERS AND FATHERS, CHILDREN AND NEIGHBOURS! If you are honest, you would say that you do not desire this for others, and if you were more honest, you would admit that a dictator on earth would be evil if he tormented his subjects in similar ways if they happened to incur his displeasure, yet you hypocritically judge God who does infinitely worse with a different standard, and not only that, but you also completely and wholly excuse him from guilt as if he do no wrong at all for allowing billions of humans, angels and souls to be eternally damned and live in the worst possible torments imaginable.

When one starts to defend Hell and God, all reason will be thrown out the window and evil and unforgivness and unhope and unlove and the personal support for tormenting others for all eternity, will be propagated. That is what has happened to you. Introibo, you should look your neighbour in the eyes and feel ashamed of yourself!

I hope you see the light.
I will pray for you.

Ville Hietanen (Jerome)

"I have been told several times that all will be saved in the end, and that God has changed his position on Hell. This makes me happy, and I hope this is true..."


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    1. Thanks for your support. It is nice to see people actually agreeing with what I write. Most Christians are not honest, and even though they abhor damnation and do not even want to think of themselves or their loved one as being damned, they should nevertheless admit that damnation is something evil and that they do not desire this upon anyone (for then they would follow their conscience, which tells them they do not want this evil to befall upon anyone in the same way they do not want it to befall themselves or their children), and not only defend this evil doctrine as if there is nothing wrong with it.

  2. You can certainly see your enthusiasm within the article
    you write. The arena hopes for more passionate writers such as you who are not afraid to mention how they believe.
    Always go after your heart.

    1. Thank you very much for your comment!

      I want to mention this, but if this comment is spam (most comments are spam on my blog, and this may be also), it is quite incredible nontheless that it speaks truly just like what has occured and what I do.

      I have enthusism for what I do of course, and it is also a battle so yes, the "arena" part is fitting too, and yes, I am not affraid to mention what I beleive, although I feel sad sometimes that others will see my beleifs as heretical even though they are noble. And yes, I go after my heart, which is why I advocate the salvation of everyone and everything, even devils and demons, and even carsd and nonliving things I desire that they may receive life.

      What would a thing become if it could receive life? That is interesting indeed! Oh Blessed Virgin Mary, grant us this grace that even nonliving things that we have had feelings for (but also those things that has never been thought about by us except by God!), may be able to love, give love and receive love! Thanks!